Hmm, perhaps there is a chance for this thread after all... thanks, goodbye.
Btw, I don't think clarifying my statements is beating a dead horse. That was all I was trying to do.
in proverbs there are several verses on the wisdom.
of using the rod for discipline.
the notion that children.
Hmm, perhaps there is a chance for this thread after all... thanks, goodbye.
Btw, I don't think clarifying my statements is beating a dead horse. That was all I was trying to do.
in proverbs there are several verses on the wisdom.
of using the rod for discipline.
the notion that children.
If you won't take me seriously, I have no reason to post, except to clarify or comment on other posts. I've asked for advice from adults, I've commented many times on how hard parenting must be and how i know i won't be mature enough for it for quite a few years. I've tried to be freinds with older ones on this and other sites. I've asked about older people's experiences as parents, and in life in general. Much of this can be seen just on this site.
I never claimed to know it all. I'm sorry if my believeing that hitting kids is wrong somehow qaulifies as "thinking i know it all". I have many wishy-washy opinions because I know that i don't have much experienc in life. I look for advice and various opinions, and I want to experience life before making too many dogmatic assertations. But the few strong opinions i have i will probably never back down on. This is one of them.
That is all I have to say unless anyone wants to have a mature discussion with me.
EDIT: My boyfriend frequently teases my about my shortness. I don't think it's mean. I suppose some people would.
Maybe what you and I think is "teasing" is a little different. Some things like my shortness or my buck teeth just don't bother me if it's gentle teasing (apparently I'm a beaver ;) ), and other things drive me crazy.
You don't know whether I'm 17 or 18, do you. Hm. Interesting. Good.
in proverbs there are several verses on the wisdom.
of using the rod for discipline.
the notion that children.
Gentle ribbing is when someone teases me about being short. A group of posters going off-topic on a serious thread to make fun of one poster is kind of rude. I don't really care, except that it's a sensitive subject with me. I have had way too many people dismiss my opinions and ideas simply because I'm young.
I am no longer going to divulge my age. When I do, certain people jump to conclusions about me on so many aspects. I do not need that. It merely distracts from the topic(s) on hand.
wasblind, you hit your kid. You posted about it with no shame. You were not sad about posting about it, were you? You don't feel guilty, so you. To me, that means you were happy that you used hitting as a punishment-perhaps not at the momnet you did so, but at least in retrospect.
in proverbs there are several verses on the wisdom.
of using the rod for discipline.
the notion that children.
Wasblind, that was meant as a joke. Please reread my post.
Just forget I posted at all, MRs Jones. You don't understand. Nevermind. I'm ruining this thread by sharing anything at all. I should have never tried to discuss anything. I am sorry.
I'm so sick of being told what i don't know. I don't claim to know how to raise kids. I've said before that being a parent must be harder than anything else in the world. But god forbid I disagree with one aspect of raising kids. Suddenly I'm the typical know-it-all teen.
in proverbs there are several verses on the wisdom.
of using the rod for discipline.
the notion that children.
Not a damn one, i don't know where she gettin' this fictitious mess from that we enjoy punishin' our kids
UNTRUE, NEVER SAID IT.
Sounds like you two are forgetting that Chemical is still a yung un', they're observations are usually correct, it's us old folks that just don't seem to get .
RUDE. Obviously sarcastic. I never claimed that. I respect those older than me as a rule and look to many older ones for advice, as is obvious from many of my other posts.
*facepalm!* oh I totally forgot that Shirley. Yeah, an 18 year old living at home with her parents knows vastly more about parenting than a 47 year old woman who's been married close to 20 years and has four kids ranging in age from 18 to 8. How in the hell could I not see that?
Just rude. Seriously. Not neccesary. I never claimed to know more about parenting, I admitted that I know little. This one aspect I feel strongly about, not parenting in general.
If you all want to be like that, fine. But it does little to further the thread. It's petty and rude.
in proverbs there are several verses on the wisdom.
of using the rod for discipline.
the notion that children.
Thanks for being so rude to me, you guys. I guess I just don't know anything.
I guess my experience of being hit means nothing. I guess my trivial little feelings on the subject, which I tried to share, which was really hard to share, mean nothing. I suppose my stupid opinions don't mean shit. I guess I'll just go fuck off.
No one asked what I meant. I never said you enjoyed punishing kids just then. Don't put words in my mouth. But you were happy about it in that it did not make you feel bad. You don't regret it. You don't wish you hadn't done it. You think you did the right thing.
in proverbs there are several verses on the wisdom.
of using the rod for discipline.
the notion that children.
Yeah, I've heard that one before, Mrs Jones. But I don't have to be a parent to know right from wrong. I bet you're a great mom, but that doesn't make spanking right. I'm sure your kids are happy and healthy, but that doesn't make spanking right.
I never hit animals after age 12ish, or children. I've been bitten, scratched, had my hair pulled (by animals and children) and been threatened. But hitting was never neccesary to stop those issues. I'll grant that I don't have much experience, but I don't need experience to know that abuse is wrong. Nothing anyone says can make me think, "hey wait a minute, being smacked by my parents didn't really traumatize me at all! And once I'm a parent I won't mind doing it either. I mean, I'm psychic and can tell if the occasional hit will emotionally effect my children or not, just like my mother was. All that emotional damage was just me being dramatic! After all, hitting is only abuse if you do it to someone who can sue you."
EDIT: I don't see how you agreed with me, sorry. I know you said you didn't regret spanking your kids, so i assumed that you felt it was right in some circumstances. If I misunderstood you, I'm sorry. I sometimes do that when i read posts too fast.
in proverbs there are several verses on the wisdom.
of using the rod for discipline.
the notion that children.
Cofty rocks and is one of the few voices of reason on this thread. Jadeen as well.
I find it interesting that some people on here who have hit their kids and are apparently quite happy about it, are actually bothered by what they seem to think is unreasonable behavior on the part of other posters...hmmm... I smell irony.
in proverbs there are several verses on the wisdom.
of using the rod for discipline.
the notion that children.
Yikes. That is so sad. And cruel. Who in their right mind...ugh. What a mean woman. >:(
that is, for those of you who actually think that hitting children is wrong, what types of discipline do you find more effective?
i'm not a parent but when dealing with kids, i've seen that time-outs tend to make kids feel isolated and can really hurt them.
if they're near others and are checked up on frequently, it seems ok. but when they're completely ignored, that is just bad.
That is, for those of you who actually think that hitting children is wrong, what types of discipline do you find more effective?
I'm not a parent but when dealing with kids, I've seen that time-outs tend to make kids feel isolated and can really hurt them. If they're near others and are checked up on frequently, it seems ok. But when they're completely ignored, that is just bad. I hate that.
Getting down and talking with them eye-to-eye sometimes seems to help.
Yelling doesn't ever work, but if they bite you and you say very clearly OW THAT HURTS! loudly, even yelling, it gets their attention, but not if you yell a lot at other times.
Just my limited experience. :)
If anyone comments on here about how effective hitting kids can be, etc etc, you will be posting OFF TOPIC.